tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post3426119136152589656..comments2023-05-09T04:57:48.290-05:00Comments on From A Submariner's Perspective: ...on Stupid Drunken Puking Interns, Among OthersSmagBoy1http://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-53338879799814070282010-07-15T15:43:18.040-05:002010-07-15T15:43:18.040-05:00Ahahaha... yes! I can be a dominatrix and whip him...Ahahaha... yes! I can be a dominatrix and whip him into shape. :-PNachtmusikhttp://facebook.com/diana.y.vangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-46881683230380383252010-07-14T16:47:50.202-05:002010-07-14T16:47:50.202-05:00And LW3...you know how human emotion's sometim...And LW3...you know how human emotion's sometimes surprise us at the oddest times...when you believe you think one way and then bada-bing something comes flying out of your mouth that is the complete opposite as to what you thought you thought? Criminy, did you get that sentence, I can't seem to structure it any better today. Or your actions are the complete opposite of who you thought you were? Or maybe it is a surprise of how your brain sorts through visual data?<br /><br />I walked into the mall and standing at the "You are here" board was this pair of blinding white high heels with black hose in a dress, my first thought was about the white shoes with black hose, just not a good look, a fashion blunder. So as I walk past I want to see who is wearing this get up, and out of this long sleeve cuffed (shirt waist) dress...I am startled to see these very masculine hands, they were huge as baseball mitt's, so startling coming out of those pristine church lady cuffs. <br /><br />So as I am mentally taken aback while sorting visual data I search out this face gazing at the board to find a matching very masculine face under a wig. More for my mind to sort. <br /><br />I was looking at a cross dresser who truly needed a woman friend to help him with his choice in shoes and hose...and my brain was stumbling to put this all together. My own response in what took all of 5 seconds startled me. It was unkind of me to think his hands looked like baseball mitt's. <br /><br />This encounter caused me to begin thinking about how we react when the picture does not fit what our brain is used to seeing as the norm? I now wonder if I had to explain my immediate reaction if I could do so without looking like a huge freak of homophobic nature? I now understand I don't even have the vocabulary needed to figure out how I go about understanding cross dressing, how to reconcile my reaction against what I really truly believe I believe. And that is that each of us on earth deserves to love and be loved and we each deserve to be able to be what we are within those parameter's of kindness, honor and respect. (This is my political disclaimer attempt again for pedophiles, abuser's, my no harm to other's statement).<br /><br />I found my reaction to be less than what I ever would have thought of myself. I've no idea where I am going with this, but I felt the need to share, it was so odd. I hope next time my brain is not so disrupted by what it saw VS what it thought it should see?<br /><br />My goal is not to be so caught off guard by my own brain...I was embarrassed by my own reaction and I was alone at the time.DebbiePlaysWellWithOthershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11647894940477287915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-30198578447626627952010-07-14T16:19:10.525-05:002010-07-14T16:19:10.525-05:00I love you all...
For all your ranting...
All yo...I love you all...<br /><br />For all your ranting...<br /><br />All your prose...<br /><br />And even the show song's...T you are having quite the day!<br /><br />I love each and every one of you, mostly for not being moron's, you know me my tolerance for stupid people is still at an all time low and still...I don't see this changing anytime soon.<br /><br />I laughed, and that felt so good today. And I believe my favorite line this week is....Thanks for a great, return-to-snark week! The Snark week got me! Hell, this week Tarquin got me laughing. <br /><br />I am reeling from one of those pesky life things that you never, ever, in a million years think possible. One of those why would it? How could it? Movie material for sure or at the least a 30 minute sitcom. I'll write about it soon once I finish gathering all my thought's. <br /><br />It's crazy in a Aw fer the love-a Mike way...<br /><br />Happy trails everyone...DebbiePlaysWellWithOthershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11647894940477287915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-38037778379635569802010-07-12T23:49:58.363-05:002010-07-12T23:49:58.363-05:00herd"T"hinner ethelmermans thusly:
In h...herd"T"hinner ethelmermans thusly:<br /><br />In honor of LW1 and that Greatest Industry in the World, Entertainment (aka SHOW BUSINESS), here's a little ditty:<br /><br />There's NO business like SHOW business <br />Like NO business I knowwww<br />Everybody's got that creepy feeling<br />Everything that money will allow <br /><br />Nowhere could you have that happy feeling <br />When you are puking<br />Onyourboss's coouuuch<br /><br />There's no PEOPLE like show PEOPLE<br />"Is he gay? Well, I don't knoooooow" <br /><br />Yesterday he tried to take you way too far, <br />But you keeled over and there you are <br />Next day in the break room, hon, he's hung his star <br /><br />Let's go over to HR!<br /><br />There's no PEOPLE like show PEOPLE, they smile after their "blow."<br />Even with a turkey who won't fire your ass,<br />cuz they don't pay you, any cash??,<br />Still you think Dear Prudie may have got your back,<br />Let's go on with the SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWherdThinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11243614435958257781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-86889825395200730972010-07-11T12:15:50.345-05:002010-07-11T12:15:50.345-05:00Damn it, Smaggie, i had a simply brilliant 2,000 w...Damn it, Smaggie, i had a simply brilliant 2,000 word riposte to your usual nonsense but when i went to post it, instead of hitting the 'post comment' box, i accidentally shot my neighbour in the back. Ah, well, forget it, Smaggie, it's Chinatown. Or Oakland.<br /><br />One or the other.Tarquin Machismohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879507491695326622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-46040211370381888392010-07-11T05:39:48.151-05:002010-07-11T05:39:48.151-05:00Ahoy, Nachtmusik! I don't know if I can fit a...Ahoy, Nachtmusik! I don't know if I can fit any in my suitcase, but,I would like to point out that, culturally, they're still a little behind on gender issues. You ready to train someone if I do bring him back? ;-)<br /><br />Good cheer!:-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-38293290219585688132010-07-11T05:33:13.149-05:002010-07-11T05:33:13.149-05:00Ahoy, 'T'! All is well with me, thank you...Ahoy, 'T'! All is well with me, thank you for asking. Or, would rather, "Alles gut! Danke. Mit dich?"<br /><br />As for LW2, I'm sorry if I left any room for questions about how I felt about the parents. ;-) Here, let me quote, "You know what else he can learn about people? That some are assholes who dwell on petty slights and some move on and tackle the next big challenge. Just sayin’." Think the LW missed that those words were aimed squarely at her forehead? ;-)<br /><br />As for LW#3, you're absolutely correct! How could you not be. ;-)<br /><br />Good cheer, 'T'! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-63636505821369057322010-07-11T05:22:03.838-05:002010-07-11T05:22:03.838-05:00Ahoy, Michelle. Okay, I can agree that one has to ...Ahoy, Michelle. Okay, I can agree that one has to make assumptions with this letter, and that it's one of those deals where you sort of have to be there to catch the nuances, etc. I'll also freely admit that I'm trusting the LW's version in this case as he's given me no reason to distrust him. But, for certainty, I will agree that we can't know for sure.<br /><br />That said, like hrumpole, I don't think the LW expected never to meet anyone who dislikes him or something about him. I just think it was more surprise and hurt about getting those feelings from someone with whom he'd felt so close (that's another thing that lends credence to his letter for me, by the way, but I've already agreed to let that one go...). ;-)<br /><br />Anyway, good cheer! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-54859433274694166212010-07-11T05:17:27.110-05:002010-07-11T05:17:27.110-05:00Ahoy, Bella! I'm thrilled that you enjoyed my...Ahoy, Bella! I'm thrilled that you enjoyed my rant. And yes, please do feel free to use at any time. Credit is not necessary, but, interestingly, as my current work/study is in the medical field, I've had to learn the APA format (and after years of MLA, it's an interesting process!).<br /><br />As for the weather, believe it or not, they're under the same conditions as you. It broke 100 here yesterday. The difference? Because this area is normally so temperate, they don't have A/C here. :-( So, here I am, sitting my hotel room, typing this with the ceiling fan going full blast, the windows wide open and I'm sweating like a pig. Oh well. Here's hoping that tomorrow will be cooler. :-)<br /><br />Good cheer! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-50701213993607025602010-07-11T01:05:58.156-05:002010-07-11T01:05:58.156-05:00German men are hot. Bring back one for me, okay? ;...German men are hot. Bring back one for me, okay? ;-)Nachtmusikhttp://facebook.com/diana.y.vangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-31042973434388124732010-07-09T22:24:31.119-05:002010-07-09T22:24:31.119-05:00To Ms Michelle - I appreciate your good intentions...To Ms Michelle - I appreciate your good intentions, but find it a little insulting that so many O So Wise Pundits are so happy to tell LW3 that he has completely misinterpreted a prejudicial rant when a) he was there and none of the OSWPs were, b) as someone who has been open and out for some time, he probably has a great deal more experience in interpreting the nuances of anti-gay rants than 95% or more of the OSWPs who are condescending to him, and c) there doesn't seem to be any real hint that LW3 is the sort of Drama Queen who thrives on seeing and crying Homophobia! every time he turns around.<br /><br />I have been in the position the OSWPs are attributing to the female friend, having once said something that came out as if it were indicative of prejudice against a group of people. When I realized I had hurt the feelings of a close friend, I did not toss off the line, "Nothing against YOU." Had I been the female friend and realized how what I'd said had gone well past what I'd meant, the apology I'd have offered would have matched the apology I did extend in real life. By the end of the day LW3 would have had it expressed for him in writing quite extensively and probably repeated two or three times for good measure exactly what I had intended to convey and how I did not hold the (justly in that incident) perceived prejudice against the group of people that included him, and how right he had been to take offence.<br /><br />I grant that some of the OSWPs on the That's Not What She Meant Bandwagon have shown some trepidation before telling an openly gay person that he doesn't know an anti-gay rant when he hears one. You yourself say, "it could have been anything but," and at least put up a later post with "shoulda been there". But I suspect that that would be about the minimum in qualifiers that SB1 would advance before saying a female LW was wrong and that a rant of her male colleague's hadn't been sexist.<br /><br />As to whether he expected never to meet anyone who disapproved of his orientation, he seems enough of an adult to have encountered anti-gay prejudice before. Chances are he's had some friends who didn't exactly approve, but this could be the first time he's heard a rant of such a level of disgust from someone he'd considered a good friend.<br /><br />I heartily approve of your idea for the blackmail letter, by the way. I'd suggest she cut words out of actual Last Wills; there would be a nice legal touch to that.hrumpolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07222741183212487472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-52653431721706456912010-07-09T22:17:24.961-05:002010-07-09T22:17:24.961-05:00Herd"T"hinner clues you in, you fucking ...Herd"T"hinner clues you in, you fucking dimwitted, asinine, air-brained, not-taking-responsibility-for-your-own-actions, blaming-others-for-your-shortcomings, foolish ass-wipe:<br /><br />...well, not really. But like Bella, I believe that it's a phrase that can be used on many occasions! Like as an opening to a companywide email. Or for teens who think that's the "prayer" to use at Thanksgiving to show their displeasure at being "volunteered" to lead said prayer. Or as the opening line for Fox's new, edgy, smash-hit comedy!<br /><br />Also dann. Wie geht es Ihnen, mein Herr Smaggen? Oh, yeah, used the formal form, oh yeah! And maybe the wrong adjective endings. I never could get the hang of those.<br /><br />LW1 - oh, alcohol: is there anything you CAN'T do? Smagbrau, I was hoping you'd chew on and spit out the LW. Damned crazy kids and their crazy kid ways. HEY! (rapraprap) GET OFF MY LAWN! YEAH, YOU, YOU DAMNED HOOLIGANS!<br /><br />Sorry, what? Some damned crazy college kids were getting drunk and puking on my lawn again. I thought they were all gay, till they started kissing each other.<br /><br /><br />LW2 - I'm not alone on WTF'ing the parents, right? Smaggenschweigenhoffenauber, I didn't really get that from your reply, so amn't sure. So I'll say, WTF, PARENTS?? $20? TWENTY DOLLARS?!? I've forgiven hundreds before, and for a friend that I don't even like that much. Ye gods, he's unemployed now. Fuck! But I do agree with one of the DP commenters who was, of course, confident that Uncle was no longer playing the video games, but was devoted full-time to jobhunting. Don't be like me, Uncle!! Don't fall into the abyss of thousands of hours lost to Lego Star Wars! Not when Lego Indiana Jones is much better.<br /><br />...What? It's not good advice, but it's advice!<br /><br />LW3 -<br />... You know, I'm staying outta this one. I think she was both disgusted by the shock value of the stunt (Madonna and... Britney, was it?), and doesn't think much of gays, either. There, see? I can't be wrong! WOOHOO! YIPYIPYIP! OO-RAH!<br /><br />LW4 - Babies. zzzzzzzzzzz....<br /><br />Sorry I missed last week's comments, but I did read your replies, Herr Smagschnitzel! Then I got into other stuff, and then it was Thursday again.herdThinnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11243614435958257781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-56365627853913789432010-07-09T16:31:41.310-05:002010-07-09T16:31:41.310-05:00And by the way, I loved you answer to LW1. Serious...And by the way, I loved you answer to LW1. Seriously, it reminded me of the lawyer that wanted to blackmail the senior partner she thought she walked in on while he was taking care of business. I kept waiting for her to ask if she should write the blackmail letter in newspaper print or just do it on a typewriter.Ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577037384655890008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-46968276730858186902010-07-09T16:15:09.849-05:002010-07-09T16:15:09.849-05:00I still don't know. I think it's one of th...I still don't know. I think it's one of those exchanges that you really had to be there to understand. Did she go of about it being disgusting, only to have LW3 sit there gaping at her with tears in his eyes, so she addressed him specifically? Hard to say. If he was the only one reacting poorly, I may have made the same comment, despite have exactly zero homophobic or anti-gay sentiments. (Seriously, like, my best friend...) If someone reacts like you are personally attacking them, you may turn to them in reaction and say "I wasn't talking about *you*, why are you taking this personally?" I still think we have an over sensitive lw, regardless. Even if she did mean it, did he really think that he was never going to meet someone who doesn't like his orientation in life? I've met plenty of people who don't like my life choices and inherent personal traits, and that isn't really surprising to me (on the contrary, I'm amazed when people do really like my abrasive, tactless self). I just think there's a lot in this letter that needs context, and it seems to me it was a "shoulda been there" situation. But hey. I've been wrong before. :)Ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577037384655890008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-43924344990502464702010-07-09T06:30:58.280-05:002010-07-09T06:30:58.280-05:00"Let me clue you in, you fucking dimwitted, a..."Let me clue you in, you fucking dimwitted, asinine, air-brained, not-taking-responsibility-for-your-own-actions, blaming-others-for-your-shortcomings, foolish ass-wipe."<br /><br />That's it! I'm using this at some point in the future. I'll give you credit, Smag--- I'll use MLA format and everything....<br /><br />Anyway, I LOVED your response to that chick! <br /><br />How the hell are ya? I hope you enjoy Germany and the weather there is fine! We've been having HOT AS HADES weather here where I'm at! Dang! The 100s! What would Mark Twain say if he were still around?<br /><br />Thanks for a great, return-to-snark week!Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17329984660836298211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-86779051623358236272010-07-09T05:54:52.141-05:002010-07-09T05:54:52.141-05:00Ahoy Michelle, and Welcome! :-)
While I understa...Ahoy Michelle, and Welcome! :-)<br /><br />While I understand your frustration, I think that you're missing a VERY KEY point! It's not what she said in her outburst. You correctly surmise that, were it just those words, she could have meant any number of things. It's the apology (as Mermaid so wisely noted in another conversation thread)!<br /><br />After her "rant", had the LW's "friend" apologized to the dramatic, oversharing, frequent PDA woman in the group, saying, "Oh, I'm sorry, that wasn't aimed at *you*!" then it would have been clear her concern was drama, oversharing, oversharing and PDA. Or, had she issued a general, "Wow guys, sorry for the outburst! I don't know where that came from!" we'd have no foothold to say what her intent was. Instead, what she did was TURN TO THE GAY MAN and say, "Oh, I'm sorry, that wasn't aimed at *you*!" Which, of course, means that, while it might not have been aimed at *him*, it was squarely aimed at the homosexual implications of the kiss. If it wasn't, why would the thought even cross her mind causing the apology, and, too, if it wasn't, how hard would it have been to clarify to the LW (if it was his reaction that caused her apology)?!<br /><br />No, in this case, you're wrong, Michelle. The clues are right there in bold type and you're giving her a free pass. Which is fine, but, I can't agree to it.<br /><br />I realize you're a little exercised over this letter, Michelle, but bigotry and discrimination exercises me. I loathe it. With a passion that could easily be described as biased and discriminatory (as ironic as that may be), so I do sometimes jump the gun and have to check myself constantly. But not in this case. The evidence is clear. Not to mention that I'm willing to trust the LW until he gives me reason not to--and there was no indication in the letter that he is prone to the dramatic. To the contrary, he's looking for ways to *keep* the relationship.<br /><br />Good cheer! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-71460224749067163252010-07-09T05:43:36.791-05:002010-07-09T05:43:36.791-05:00Greetings hrumpole, and ahoy! :-) Thank you for ...Greetings hrumpole, and ahoy! :-) Thank you for the kind words re: LW#1. Strange no one has taken me to task about that as I figured plenty of people would gig me for blaming the victim. I'm glad it's *not* happened, but I was steeled for it. :-)<br /><br />As for LW#3, I agree completely, and, I hope that I can elucidate my point, below, to Michelle...<br /><br />Good cheer! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-77485715199546306322010-07-09T05:41:09.006-05:002010-07-09T05:41:09.006-05:00Ahoy Janiebell! I hope that you have a wonderful ...Ahoy Janiebell! I hope that you have a wonderful move! I know they can be stressful, but, they don't have to be! Here's hoping that yours is wonderful and that your new place is a blast! :-) As for LW#3, please read my upcoming comments to Michelle (below)...<br /><br />Good cheer! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-33917473333242793562010-07-08T22:44:00.316-05:002010-07-08T22:44:00.316-05:00I wanted to add, I did notice this was addressed, ...I wanted to add, I did notice this was addressed, but dang. I couldn't find in the original letter where the woman said it was disgusting because it was two women, rather just that it was disgusting. Seems to me to be a rather large difference in statements that would have been addressed by the LW, and instead was completely omitted (likely because it wasn't said?).Ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577037384655890008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-4809609088560889552010-07-08T22:39:55.621-05:002010-07-08T22:39:55.621-05:00Why is it assumed that the woman in L3 is homophob...Why is it assumed that the woman in L3 is homophobic? Seriously, I have a problem with PDA of that extreme from anyone. How many times do I have to explain what those two people are doing to my 5 year old before it does start to really tick me off? It has exactly nothing to do with their sexual orientation, and I've found hetero couples are the more prevalent offenders of my (admittedly prudish) sensibilities. And I've gone off on rants about couples of either orientation (complete with disgusted looks) because it downright ticks me off to have to explain to my child what person A and Person B are doing to each other. Ick. Sorry, but I took LW3 as being way to sensitive and taking it as a homophobic rant, when it likely could have been anything but...Ellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577037384655890008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-10953286324201566902010-07-08T22:12:08.051-05:002010-07-08T22:12:08.051-05:00Hail, SB1!
Fine form on L1.
As for L3, I am not ...Hail, SB1!<br /><br />Fine form on L1.<br /><br />As for L3, I am not surprised that people who have relatively little experience of anti-gay sentiment are second-guessing someone who has been the object of it for quite some time, as you caught. Not many people seem to think it's possible to accept the apology yet not be able to rekindle the supposed closeness, which is the most interesting part of the commentary thus far to me.hrumpolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07222741183212487472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-3733556676046016132010-07-08T19:35:35.939-05:002010-07-08T19:35:35.939-05:00Hey Smag! Hope your having a great summer! We may ...Hey Smag! Hope your having a great summer! We may be moving this fall so that's all I can think about these days. I just wanted you to know that even though we disagreed on LW3 I still love you!<br />Your answer to LW4 is perfect. So what if the new mom is going a little nuts! At least she is happy to be having a baby. And I have no words for LW1. You said everything.Jaimie (janiebell)http://bunnystuff.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-35030758612267433522010-07-08T18:16:32.377-05:002010-07-08T18:16:32.377-05:00Ahoy, Debbie, and many greetings! :-) Oh, no wor...Ahoy, Debbie, and many greetings! :-) Oh, no worries, I behave when there. My boss is going with me, and I'll be expected to do a lot more work there than play, so, such is life. Now, when I go there on my own, that's a whole other story! :-P<br /><br />Good thoughts on all, and, just so you know, I'm with you on LW#3. No need to be all slipping each other the tongue on the high-def close up. Just no need. But, in my own defense, I'm giving the LW credit for knowing the difference between someone being upset about typical Hollywood over-share, and displays intimating a sexual orientation with which his friend does not "accept". But, if the outburst was only about the excesses of Hollywood, I'm right there with you! :-)<br /><br />Much good cheer, Debbi! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-29246557873266741262010-07-08T18:10:49.291-05:002010-07-08T18:10:49.291-05:00Ahoy there, asking for a "friend"! Good...Ahoy there, asking for a "friend"! Good stuff and very succinct, too! :-)<br /><br />As for the travel wish, please feel free to use the "du" form with me as I feel we're friends enough for that. ;-)<br /><br />Good cheer! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5243415857143630995.post-18871175070756636892010-07-08T18:07:54.355-05:002010-07-08T18:07:54.355-05:00Greetings, Kati! If only such wisdom, indeed! I ...Greetings, Kati! If only such wisdom, indeed! I will absolutely kiss the soil for you. Debbie has asked that I don't do anything else with the soil, but I will plant a behaved kiss on it. ;-)<br /><br />Good cheer! :-)SmagBoy1https://www.blogger.com/profile/06579694369460538262noreply@blogger.com